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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Jul 11, 2012, 10:33:42 PM7/11/12
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randyf wrote:

> More reason to doubt our self assessments of calories in vs calories
> out.
>
> Randy
>
> //******************************
> Willbond SM et. al. Normal weight men and women overestimate exercise
> energy expenditure. J Sports Med Phys Fitness. (2010) 50(4):377-84.
>
> AIM: The limited potential of exercise to induce weight loss could be
> partly due to the overestimation of the energy cost of exercise. The
> objectives of this study were twofold: 1) to investigate whether men
> and women are able to accurately estimate exercise energy expenditure
> (EE); and 2) to determine whether they have the ability to accurately
> compensate for the EE of exercise during a buffet-type meal.
>
> METHODS: Sixteen (8 men, 8 women) moderately active (VO2 peak=45.4±7.7
> mL.kg-1.min-1), normal weight (BMI=22.8±3.3 kg/m2) individuals, aged
> 20-35 years, were studied. They were blinded to two randomly assigned
> experimental conditions: a 200 and a 300 kcal (measured by indirect
> calorimetry) exercise sessions that were performed on a treadmill at
> the same intensity (50% of VO2 peak). At the end of each exercise
> session individuals were asked to estimate EE of the exercise sessions
> and to then eat the caloric equivalent of their estimated exercise EE
> from a buffet-type meal.
>
> RESULTS: Estimated EE was higher than measured EE for both the 200
> kcal (825.0±1061.8 vs. 200.1±0.7 kcal, P<0.05) and 300 kcal
> (896.9±952.4 vs. 300.2±0.7 kcal, P<0.05) sessions. Further, post-
> exercise energy intake was higher than measured EE for the 200 kcal
> (556.8±204.4 vs. 200.1±0.7 kcal, P<0.001) and the 300 kcal
> (607.2±166.5 vs. 300.2±0.7 kcal, P<0.001) sessions. Although post-
> exercise energy intake was lower than estimated EE, no significant
> differences were noted.
>
> CONCLUSION: These results suggest that normal weight individuals
> overestimate EE during exercise by 3-4 folds. Further, when asked to
> precisely compensate for exercise EE with food intake, the resulting
> energy intake is still 2 to 3 folds greater than the measured EE of
> exercise.
>
> PMID 21178922

Smarter to weigh all meals in order to hold to the right amount, which
is 32 oz of daily food. Those who guess at calories are indeed
clueless about how much they're eating.

Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?

and

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/522ce5c058224656?

**and**

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/da03131060efa3b5?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/055f2e7cf3c590ee?

Don't be an Ayoob:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/91c1431a6b413912?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0e719da5c2d970ca?

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?

Davej

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On Jul 11, 9:33 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com>
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> [...kookism snipped...]


Chewing and swallowing burns calories.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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sbalneav wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> sbalneav wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> > sbaln...@alburg.net wrote:
>>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> >>> sbaln...@alburg.net wrote:
>>> >>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> >>>>> parasite-infested Jimmy Alpha wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> "Hunger is starvation." -- satan (source of all lies) via Esau (Genesis 25:32)
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> World Hunger:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Lie.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> That which is dying is not hungry because that which is dying cannot
>>> >>>>> eat.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Why can't the dying eat?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The ability to eat is a fundamental ability inextricably linked with
>>> >>> holding on to life.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The dying are losing their life so that in the process of losing their
>>> >>> hold on life, they've lost this "fundamental ability associated with
>>> >>> holding on to life."
>>> >>
>>> >> Can you cite some medical literature on this?
>>> >
>>> > It is clear in **all** the medical literature that those who are dead
>>> > (i.e. those who have lost completely their hold on life) cannot eat
>>> > because the vital organs needed to digest and absorb food have ceased
>>> > to function.
>>>
>>> Yes
>>
>> Glad you agree :-)
>
> Run coward run.

Smiling at you is neither running nor cowardice. Truth is simply
reality :-)

Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/82c1274bedb6cb9e?

> You'll be sure to let us know your arraignment date?

There will be no arraignment date simply because no charges will ever
be filed against this physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) for
advising everyone to hold to the right amount, which is 32 oz of daily
food, thereby stopping the overeating without harmful
undernourishment. This not only prevents obesity but also prevents
starvation. Again, truth is simply reality :-)

May GOD curse ever so severely to the Nth generation those who
unwisely choose to advise others to not http://WDJW.net/Guard
(Proverbs 4:23) the heart (Jeremiah 17:9), in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

So don't be an Ayoob:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/91c1431a6b413912?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0e719da5c2d970ca?

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Happy Oyster

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On Tue, 7 Aug 2012 20:22:32 -0700 (PDT), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:

>Smiling at you is neither running nor cowardice. Truth is simply
>reality :-)

Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung has a deathlist with the names of more than
260 persons online, persons he wants to be killed.

The attorneys of state should their work on him.

There already is one dead girl. How many does it take until the legal
system stops that criminal Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung?
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Happy Oyster

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On Sat, 18 Aug 2012 19:02:49 -0700 (PDT), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:

>May GOD curse ever so severely to the Nth generation those who
>unwisely choose to advise others to not

Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung, the sadistic swine, again at his fancy
stuff: to have others killed. More than 260 names he has on his online
deathlist.

One girl already is dead: Markea Berry. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung is
responsible for he death.

Markea Berry died of starvation. There is lots of media material about
that.
Here are some URLs of news media articles and videos on the death of
Markea Berry:

Ebony Berry, Mom who starved teen daughter Markea to death, linked to
'hunger' cure Doc (Video)
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ebony-berry-mom-starved-teen-daughter-markea-death-linked-hunger-cure-doc-video-article-1.1103172

Update: Dr. Andrew Chung admits he spoke with starved teen's mom ...
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TJE0OPIR81HG0GU23

DR ANDREW CHUNG AND EBONY BERRY ACCUSED OF STARVING DAUGHTER
http://lapanchinadimariella.forumfree.it/?t=62125479

"Being Hungry is Wonderful": Mother Who Allegedly Starved Daughter as
Part of a “Hunger Cult”
http://www.yourblackworld.net/2012/06/black-news/woman-starves-her-daughter-to-death-as-part-of-a-cult/#

Dr Andrew Chung advocates 'wonderfully hungry' and is friends with
Ebony Berry, accused of starving daughter
http://entertainment.topnewstoday.org/music/article/2644930/

The doctor behind the ‘hunger cult’ that obsessed a mother who
‘starved her 16-year-old daughter to death’
http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-doctor-behind-the-hunger-cult-that-obsessed-a-mother-who-starved-her-16-year-old-daughter-to-death/#.T_HazM0pCh0

Hunger is Starvation.
Starvation leads to Death.
http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/grand_rapids/hungry-doctor-sees-starved-girls-mom

"Keith Ayoob, director of the nutrition clinic at the Rose F. Kennedy
Center in the Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York, called
Chung's two-pound rule "disturbing"."
http://southcobb.patch.com/articles/mableton-cardiologist-may-have-influenced-mother-to-starve-teen


If you notice that Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung approaches people, do call
========================================================================
the police. There must be an end to that crime.
========================================================================

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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"truth finder"

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Yes, the little black girl was "cured" of both instantly when she died of
starvation.

Shame.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT

Uergil

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In article
<e3ba9a0e-3a39-4c15...@m5g2000yql.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:

> So don't be an Ayoob:
>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:

But not for school children when going to classes.

So BE an Ayoob, and like Ayoob, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs arenąt the problem.
łThere is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a  positive outcomes,˛ he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. łSchool breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If theyąre eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.˛
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
łWe donąt want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,˛ he said. łA child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.˛
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/


And, apparently, ABChung would rather have kids hungry all the time and
out of control in classes than breakfasted and good students.
--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less
remote from the- truth who believes nothing than
he who believes what is wrong.
Thomas Jefferson

"watcher"

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Correct, both stopped instantly when the little black girl starved to
death.

Happy Oyster

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On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 17:11:14 -0700 (PDT), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:

>May GOD curse ever so severely to the Nth generation those who



If you notice that Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung approaches people,
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do call the police.
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******************
W A R N I N G
******************
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do call the police. There must be an end to that crime.
################################################################
--

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Uergil

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In article
<24086944-fa60-48ae...@y8g2000yqy.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:

> So don't be an Ayoob:

>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:

But not for school children when going to classes.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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:-)

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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote to Dr. Brian Gene Kelley, PhD:

> May GOD ever so severely curse you and all around
> you to the Nth generation
> This prayer is being answered:

> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a9494e037c47b328?

From the same thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/2130bd18842c13e3
A hoax perpetrated by a clone, more than 6 months ago :-)

> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0168fcef73d5713e?

From the same thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/01f8276f28a36d55
An obvious Fool's Day joke saying Brian Gene Kelley died, posted on
April 1st :-)

> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b5414d2cf7aa83c5?

Containing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7Y3nbNFir8
A video showing a healthy BMI of 21 (160 lbs) and looking younger than
his being 55 at the time :-)

Proof that Andrew's prayers of this nature go unanswered :-)

Dr. Brian Gene Kelley, PhD is alive and very well :-)

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/5f88a360d1c8766f

Uirgil

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In article
<930c71f1-5790-49df...@v9g2000yql.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:

> So don't be an Ayoob:

>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Vurgil

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In article
<4316e67c-9c5f-4669...@c16g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:

> So don't be an Ayoob:

Better to be Keith Ayoob than that criminal cretin calling itself Chung.

Hunger is starvation

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A Google search of "Andrew Chung and Markea Blakely-Berry" produced
the following results:

"DR ANDREW CHUNG AND EBONY BERRY ACCUSED OF STARVING DAUGHTER"
http://lapanchinadimariella.forumfree.it/?t=62125479

"Ebony Berry, Mom who starved teen daughter Markea to death, linked to
'hunger' cure Doc (Video)"
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ebony-berry-mom-starved-teen-daughter-markea-death-linked-hunger-cure-doc-video-article-1.1103172

"Update: Dr. Andrew Chung admits he spoke with starved teen's ..."
http://www.atoast2wealth.com/2012/06/27/update-dr-andrew-chung-admits-he-spoke-with-starved-teens-mom-ebony-berry/

"Update: Dr. Andrew Chung admits he spoke with starved teen's mom ..."
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TJE0OPIR81HG0GU23

"Being Hungry is Wonderful": Mother Who Allegedly Starved Daughter as
Part of a “Hunger Cult”
http://www.yourblackworld.net/2012/06/black-news/woman-starves-her-daughter-to-death-as-part-of-a-cult/#

"Dr Andrew Chung advocates 'wonderfully hungry' and is friends with
Ebony Berry, accused of starving daughter"
http://entertainment.topnewstoday.org/music/article/2644930/

"The doctor behind the ‘hunger cult’ that obsessed a mother who
‘starved her 16-year-old daughter to death"
http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-doctor-behind-the-hunger-cult-that-obsessed-a-mother-who-starved-her-16-year-old-daughter-to-death/#.T_HazM0pCh0

--
Hunger is starvation.

"Starvation: The term hunger refers to the symptoms and effects of
starvation. According to the World Health Organization, hunger is the
single gravest threat to the world"

"Starve | Define Starve at Dictionary.com
to cause to starve; kill, weaken, or reduce by lack of food by
hunger":
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/starve

"The world hunger problem: Facts, figures and statistics":
http://library.thinkquest.org/C002291/high/present/stats.htm

"Global Hunger - Bread for the World: Have Faith. End Hunger":
http://www.bread.org/hunger/global/

"Hunger and Children in America: A Slow and Steady Starvation":
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/US/hunger-children-america-slow-steady-starvation/story?id=14328390#.UDuKMfVvF48

"Hunger Starvation":
http://www.geni.org/globalenergy/issues/global/qualityoflife/hunger/index.shtml

"Stop Hunger Now":
http://www.stophungernow.org/site/PageServer

Hunger is starvation

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A Google search of "Andrew Chung and Markea Blakely-Berry" produced the
following results:

"DR ANDREW CHUNG AND EBONY BERRY ACCUSED OF STARVING DAUGHTER"
http://lapanchinadimariella.forumfree.it/?t=62125479

"Ebony Berry, Mom who starved teen daughter Markea to death, linked to
'hunger' cure Doc (Video)"
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ebony-berry-mom-starved-teen-daughter-markea-death-linked-hunger-cure-doc-video-article-1.1103172

"Update: Dr. Andrew Chung admits he spoke with starved teen's ..."
http://www.atoast2wealth.com/2012/06/27/update-dr-andrew-chung-admits-he-spoke-with-starved-teens-mom-ebony-berry/

"Update: Dr. Andrew Chung admits he spoke with starved teen's mom ..."
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TJE0OPIR81HG0GU23

"Being Hungry is Wonderful": Mother Who Allegedly Starved Daughter as Part
of a �Hunger Cult�
http://www.yourblackworld.net/2012/06/black-news/woman-starves-her-daughter-to-death-as-part-of-a-cult/#

"Dr Andrew Chung advocates 'wonderfully hungry' and is friends with Ebony
Berry, accused of starving daughter"
http://entertainment.topnewstoday.org/music/article/2644930/

"The doctor behind the �hunger cult� that obsessed a mother who �starved her
16-year-old daughter to death"
http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-doctor-behind-the-hunger-cult-that-obsessed-a-mother-who-starved-her-16-year-old-daughter-to-death/#.T_HazM0pCh0

--
Hunger is starvation.

"Starvation: The term hunger refers to the symptoms and effects of
starvation. According to the World Health Organization, hunger is the single
gravest threat to the world"

"Starve | Define Starve at Dictionary.com
to cause to starve; kill, weaken, or reduce by lack of food by hunger":
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/starve

"The world hunger problem: Facts, figures and statistics":
http://library.thinkquest.org/C002291/high/present/stats.htm

"Global Hunger - Bread for the World: Have Faith. End Hunger":
http://www.bread.org/hunger/global/

"Hunger and Children in America: A Slow and Steady Starvation":
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/US/hunger-children-america-slow-steady-starvation/story?id=14328390#.UDuKMfVvF48

"Hunger Starvation":
http://www.geni.org/globalenergy/issues/global/qualityoflife/hunger/index.shtml

"Stop Hunger Now":
http://www.stophungernow.org/site/PageServer

*

Hunger is starvation

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Virgil

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In article
<668672e1-7acd-4263...@u19g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:

> So don't be an Ayoob:

>
> https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?
>
> Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
> diabetics and other heart disease patients:

But not for school children when going to classes.

Hungry children in classes don't learn, nor allow others in those
classes to do so.

So BE an Ayoob, and like him, support giving all children an adequate
breakfast before school.

"But Keith Ayoob, director of the Rose R. Kennedy Center Nutrition
Clinic at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, said the
programs aren�t the problem.
�There is a mountain of research that shows school breakfasts, and
particularly breakfast in the classroom, have a �positive outcomes,� he
said, describing a drop in truancy, behavior problems and visits to the
school nurse as well as an improvement in grades. �School breakfasts are
not making kids overweight. If they�re eating two breakfasts, parents
need to know that and adjust accordingly at home.�
Speaking to the New York Academy of Medicine Thursday, Ayoob defended
breakfast programs and stressed the importance of parents keeping track
of what their kids are eating.
�We don�t want some kids going hungry just because some kids are
overeating,� he said. �A child getting two breakfasts is a much easier
fix.�
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/04/20/school-breakfast-programs-p
anned-for-feeding-kids-twice/


And, apparently, ABChung would rather have kids hungry all the time and
out of control in classes than breakfasted and good students.
--


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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"observing"

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Yes, the little black girl who died from starvation stopped both instantly.

James R.

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Andrew, no one is posting on newsgroups anymore. This forum is officially
dead, just like your god.
Notice how many people are replying to your posts...none. Good luck with
that.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist (GA Lic#04037)

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Emory's IMVC.org Cardiologist (GA Lic#04037)

Ken

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Only an Insane Obsessive Compulsive Quack like Andy Chung
would spend several hours EVERY DAY AND NIGHT repeating the same
worthless,
mindless, useless, pointless religious BULLSHIT


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Emory's IMVC.org Cardiologist (GA Lic#040347)

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 17, 2013, 10:02:15 PM5/17/13
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concerned

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May 18, 2013, 7:42:38 AM5/18/13
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Correct, the little black girl ceased both with her death from starvation.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 18, 2013, 8:12:04 AM5/18/13
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an eternally condemned person wrote:
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> Correct, the little black girl ceased both with her death from starvation.

Incorrect, death does not stop/reverse obesity.

Your error is consistent with your eternal condemnation.

May GOD continue to curse you and your household to the Nth generation

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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(Proverbs 4:23) the heart (Jeremiah 17:9), in the name of Jesus Christ
of Nazareth. Amen.

concerned

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May 20, 2013, 8:43:42 AM5/20/13
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> Correct, the little black girl ceased both with her death from
starvation.

"Incorrect, death does not stop/reverse obesity."

In such word play no one who loved the little black girl can take much
solace. Death by starvation is a terrible thing. Trying now to excuse it
is an evil thing.

concerned

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May 20, 2013, 8:45:52 AM5/20/13
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Correct, both stopped for all time at the moment the little black girl died
of starvation.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 20, 2013, 9:21:25 AM5/20/13
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an eternally condemned person despairingly wrote:

>Correct, both stopped for all time at the moment the little black girl died
>of starvation.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4d64da5b67f5e608?

Absolutely incorrect. Obesity is not stopped/cured/reversed by death
through fasting/starving (i.e. 0 oz of daily food) as evident by obese
people not being able to fast longer than those who are normal weight
before dying. Instead, they die long before they even approach
becoming normal weight.

Again, your persistent delusions here are consistent with your being
eternally condemned.

May GOD continue to curse you and your entire household more than ever
to the Nth generation, in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, Who is
the truth --> http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Bottom line concerning you:

http://bit.ly/114DOYe

Laus Deo !!!

concerned

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May 20, 2013, 1:12:55 PM5/20/13
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Correct, both stopped for all time at the moment the little black girl died
of starvation.

No amount of word play will reverse her terrible death by starvation.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 20, 2013, 2:23:14 PM5/20/13
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Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement:

http://bit.ly/13G1gKE

Laus Deo !!!

http://WDJW.net/LausDeo

Don't be an Ayoob or you will most certainly die a horrible (Mark
9:42) death:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9c87c24ea7a7ee20?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger (Luke
6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://WDJW.net/VAT from around the heart

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Emory's IMVC.org Cardiologist (GA Lic#040347)
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e66adf59151b12b6?

Ken

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May 20, 2013, 2:28:57 PM5/20/13
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Only an Insane Obsessive Compulsive Quack like Andy Chung
would spend several hours EVERY DAY repeating the same worthless,
mindless, useless BULLSHIT that everyone ignores


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 22, 2013, 8:25:07 AM5/22/13
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Ken

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May 22, 2013, 10:08:40 AM5/22/13
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Only an Insane Obsessive Compulsive Quack like Chung da Chink would
spend several hours
EVERY DAY endlessly repeating his same worthless, mindless,
pointless, useless BULLSHIT


John H. Gohde

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May 22, 2013, 12:53:50 PM5/22/13
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On May 22, 10:08 am, Ken <flakey...@aol.com> wrote:

> EVERY DAY endlessly repeating his same worthless, mindless,
> pointless, useless BULLSHIT

Huh?

Sounds like your describing Bob Officer and Woody to moi, not to
mention Lu.

Should I add Ken to the list? I think so!

Ken

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May 22, 2013, 2:28:36 PM5/22/13
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On May 22, 9:53 am, "John H. Gohde" <john.h.go...@gmail.com> wrote
this shit

> Sounds like your describing Bob Officer and Woody to moi, not to
> mention Lu.
>
> Should I add Ken to the list?  I think so!

WTF should I care what you think?

John H. Gohde

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May 22, 2013, 5:24:14 PM5/22/13
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Huh? Moi cares. :)

Ken

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May 22, 2013, 5:38:24 PM5/22/13
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WTF should I care what you think, FOOL!

John H. Gohde

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May 22, 2013, 5:48:25 PM5/22/13
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On May 22, 5:38 pm, Ken <flakey...@aol.com> wrote:

>  WTF should I care what you think, FOOL!


WTF, FOOL!

Ken needs a bigger irrevocably, moi thinks.

Just my opinion, but I am NEVER wrong. :)

John H. Gohde

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On May 22, 5:38 pm, Ken <flakey...@aol.com> wrote:

>  WTF should I care what you think, FOOL!

That blasted Spell Checker!!!

WTF, FOOL!

Ken needs a bigger vocabulary, moi thinks.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Ken

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Only an Insane Obsessive Compulsive Quack like Chung da Chink would
spend several hours

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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GSI

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May 24, 2013, 10:37:22 AM5/24/13
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Chung is an ARROGANT, INSANE, SPAMMING P.O.S.,
and everyone on Usenet knows it.
He's a loser and a sick, insane, creep with no friends,
here or anywhere.

Chung placed under arrest:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/43c54ad99711bfc3

Chung terminated:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ecb9c21ab9e36ecf

Chung banned by real Christians:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f5b198e1c2e93d7c

Chung implicated in wrongful death:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/686660817c873803

Chung medical certification expired:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.christianlife/msg/2ba5eca58f94e225

WARNING: Chung is TOTALLY INSANE.
Andrew B. Chung is a destroyer of Usenet. I hope that
someday, the extremely arrogant Mr. Andrew B Chung
pays for the destruction he has wrought upon Usenet,
especially, the all-Chung-spam, sci.med.cardiology, a
formerly very helpful Usenet site for people with serious
heart problems, now totally destroyed by an egomaniac.
Chung's total arrogance has also destroyed
alt.christnet.christianlife, alt.support.diabetes, and
misc.health.alternative. Chung is an supremely arrogant
person, totally egocentric. Pure ego. All ego, and
nothing but ego. There is NO CURE for this condition.
There is a long-term dietary cure, but the patient is
always far too arrogant to follow it. They KNOW the
answer to EVERY question, and they are "always right".
In the most extreme cases, they even KNOW how "God"
and "Jesus" want the rest of us to live. (A. B. Chung)
A small percentage of the population is like this, one
percent or less. Such people are usually unable to get
along with others, and have no real friends. They know
something is not right, but keep quiet about it, and try
to behave "normally".
Many of them pursue fame with extreme determination.
An example is Anna Nicole Smith.
Chung's goal is to someday sit to the left of "God" with
"Jesus" on the right, in "God's" "Heavenly Palace".
WARNING: Chung is TOTALLY INSANE.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .


WELCOME TO THE ASSHOLE OF USENET, i.e. AN ANDREW B. CHUNG POST.
GROUND ZERO FOR USENET'S MOST INSANE, ARROGANT, SPAMMING CREEP.

WARNING: Chung is a "dongdan" (cross-dresser, drag-queen) serial
cyberstalker, particularly of gay, and especially, trans-gender males.

WARNING!! YOU HAVE CLICKED ON ANDREW B. CHUNG SPAM
CHUNG IS INSANE! HE IS A DANGEROUS PERSON. HE IS A TOTAL
EGOIST - ALL EGO AND NOTHING BUT DIAMOND-HARD EGO.
CHUNG IS ON A QUEST FOR GLORY SUFFICIENT TO MATCH SIZE
OF HIS ENORMOUS EGO. CHUNG BELIEVES HE WILL SOMEDAY
SIT IN GOD'S HEAVENLY PALACE TO THE LEFT OF GOD WITH
JESUS ON THE RIGHT. CHUNG IS TOTALLY INSANE.

WARNING: Chung posts links to his website in order to sell the Chung
"2PD-OMER" diet, a diet that combines "religious" extremism with
dietary extremism. The origin of this quack diet is Chung's
interpretation of biblical scripture in which he reveals that both
"Jesus" and "God" carried around scales and religiously weighed
everything they ate, never consuming more than a biblical "OMER",
todays equivalent of 2 pounds according to Chung's "calculations".
Chung further claims that WHAT you eat is not important, eat roadkill
if you like. Just don't get carried away and consume more than 2
pounds. Chung adds in the strongest terms, that going over 2 pounds
even once is a "perishing soul" offense, and warns that his Messiah,
"LORD" Jesus Christ, teacher of love and forgiveness, will personally
roast alive all offenders.

The dietary insane blather of Andrew B. Chung:

"Moreover, the fact that babies are born hungry with empty stomachs
**and** functioning brains is absolute scientific proof that hunger
does not destroy brain cells but rather promotes their rapid growth as
evident by what happens in utero."

GSI response: Babies are nourished by the mothers blood through the
umbilical cord and placenta, as anyone who has taken first year biology
in High School knows. Chung shows almost NO real medical knowledge. No
medically trained person would EVER write the bullshit sentence above.

"Actually, hunger for real food is simply a desire to eat real food
that is verified by the ability to eat real food and may be accompanied
by stomach sounds that allow others to verify the desire to eat real
food even **before** the eating happens." -Andrew B. Chung

( We are so lucky here on UseNet to have free access to the hard earned
wisdom of brilliant medical professionals like Dr. Chung - "Hunger for
real food is simply a desire to eat real food that is verified by the
ability to eat real food." Wow!, who would have guessed? )

"Hunger for real food does not indicate a need for real food as evident
by this desire often increasing when the food is especially palatable
in the middle of eating the "right" daily amount (32 oz, one "OMER")
when any real need would be decreasing." -Andrew B. Chung

GSI response: here Chung, in his determination to be "right", hopes
that you won't notice that "need" and "desire" don't mean the same
thing.
Chung, take your 2 digit IQ, moronic, "diet" bullshit to the
appropriate newsgroups. "alt.christnet.christianlife,
alt.bible.prophecy" etc. are not the place for arrogant hourly "status"
updates on how many ounces of food an arrogant spamming
asshole-"religious" hustler has consumed. What you are doing here is
PURE ARROGANCE. There is NOTHING "holy" or "righteous" about it. You
and your sock-puppets are ARROGANT. The rigid "diet" you promote leads
to making you even more arrogant, i.e. bigger ASSHOLES. Though it
hardly seems possible, you will become even more egocentric, rigid, and
self-righteous."

No medical professional would EVER endorse your QUACK diet. Just as no
real scientist would ever endorse Creationism. Both are what happens
when stupid people attempt to force their stupid, LITERAL
interpretation of the Bible into the fields of science and medicine, to
"PROVE" that THEY are the "smart" ones. Food is primarily fuel. There
is NO ONE RIGHT AMOUNT for all people in all climates and all daily
activities, any more than there is one "right" amount of gas for your
car. A lumberjack cannot do a days work on 32 oz. of food, while for
instance, an arrogant, INSANE, internet spammer like Chung probably
could. And it DOES matter WHAT you eat.
The 2IQ-MRON diet is pure 2 digit IQ Evangelical BULLSHIT, and an
attempt to extend Christian Evangelicalism into a highly profitable,
low risk, field of medicine. The suggestion that REAL medical
professionals at Emory University are supporting this BS is laughable.
The janitorial staff at Emory is smarter than that. Supply the phone
number of ONE medical professional who supports the idea that "God",
via INSANE Usenet spammer, Andrew B. Chung, has instructed all humans
to consume exactly 2 pounds of food daily, regardless of sex, age,
weight, activity, body-type/metabolism, climate, etc. to back up these
claims. Any medical professional supporting this diet should lose his
medical license immediately, and that includes Dr. Chung himself.

The Egomaniac "HeartDoc" explains why it doesn't matter that he has
lost his medical board-certification: (short answer-
"GOD-sanctification is infinitely greater than board-certification" -
A.B.Chung)

"This actively practicing physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc )
continues to be very well-compensated as a cardiologist b/c he is known
by all to be one of a chosen few to have the power of the Holy Spirit (
http://WDJW.net/HolySpirit ) to heal/cure/reverse (Mark 16:18) heart
disease including type-2 diabetes, which is a CAD equivalent, while
giving all the glory to GOD as seen on network TV:

Behold as http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc Andrew gives all the glory to GOD as
the http://www.11alive.com/news/article/251415/3/Doctor-Touts-Hunger
(Luke 6:21a) with all glory to GOD, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) him to
hunger so that he can thrive as he enjoys his meals more than ever:
http://WDJW.net/LausDeo :-)

Bottom line concerning http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc Andrew being perfect
(Matthew 5:48):
GOD-sanctification (1 Thessalonians 5:23) is infinitely greater than
board-certification for He makes the latter eternal (1 Corinthians 2:9)
without need for eternal fee payments to ABIM :-)"

GSI response: I guess it's OK to practice medicine without a license,
as long as you have "GOD-sanctification", like the INSANE egomaniac,
Andrew B Chung.

WARNING:CHUNG ALERT!!! v1.94



Ken

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EVERY DAY endlessly repeating his same worthless, mindless,
pointless, useless BULLSHIT that everyone ignores




Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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