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MahaBTC
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Should we expect the possibility to flash the rx 580 with an rx 590 for better performance?
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adaseb
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November 01, 2018, 02:01:55 AM |
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Should we expect the possibility to flash the rx 580 with an rx 590 for better performance?
No this will definitely not be possible because it's a completely different ASIC GPU chip. You could do this with certain cards like the VEGA 56 or some older 7950 GPU because they basically had a good ASIC quality but the manufacture just locked the extra cores and sold it for less. However it needs to be the same chipset for that to work. |
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x8664amd
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November 01, 2018, 03:55:03 AM |
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Should we expect the possibility to flash the rx 580 with an rx 590 for better performance?
No this will definitely not be possible because it's a completely different ASIC GPU chip. You could do this with certain cards like the VEGA 56 or some older 7950 GPU because they basically had a good ASIC quality but the manufacture just locked the extra cores and sold it for less. However it needs to be the same chipset for that to work. Yep, RX590 is an entirely different architecture. You can't flash the BIOS and wish your RX580 will become a 590. |
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Mattthev (OP)
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November 01, 2018, 12:01:53 PM |
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Should we expect the possibility to flash the rx 580 with an rx 590 for better performance?
No this will definitely not be possible because it's a completely different ASIC GPU chip. You could do this with certain cards like the VEGA 56 or some older 7950 GPU because they basically had a good ASIC quality but the manufacture just locked the extra cores and sold it for less. However it needs to be the same chipset for that to work. Yep, RX590 is an entirely different architecture. You can't flash the BIOS and wish your RX580 will become a 590. Well you can try that  But it wouldn't probably works like it should If you would try that let me know result  |
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November 01, 2018, 12:44:19 PM |
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What's with all the damn GPU ASIC Flooding the market!!  seriously though the GTX 1060 GDDR5X looks to be the real winner of ETH-Hash coins if the pill works for it. The RX 590 doesn't impress me they didn't even boost the memory speed we know GDDR5 can handle 9GBPS, but the power savings would be nice. On the other hand if ETH implements ProgPoW then RX 580's are near worthless at it whereas Vega56's with its HBM will be far superior, even to Nvidia GPUs. Then If vega 20 comes out with the 4096-bit HBM bus + 16-32GB vRAM then that will be a real monster for mining memory intensive algos. |
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November 01, 2018, 01:21:50 PM |
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You sure can try to flash a 580 into something newer, but I guarantee the flash won’t do anything besides possibly bricking your card if you don’t have dual bios or know how to reflash a card; I doubt the card will even display anything. What's with all the damn GPU ASIC Flooding the market!! seriously though the GTX 1060 GDDR5X looks to be the real winner of ETH-Hash coins if the pill works for it. The RX 590 doesn't impress me they didn't even boost the memory speed we know GDDR5 can handle 9GBPS, but the power savings would be nice. On the other hand if ETH implements ProgPoW then RX 580's are near worthless at it whereas Vega56's with its HBM will be far superior, even to Nvidia GPUs. Then If vega 20 comes out with the 4096-bit HBM bus + 16-32GB vRAM then that will be a real monster for mining memory intensive algos. What’s a GPU ASIC? I assume you’re talking about both GPUs and ASICS flooding the market. The 1060 G5X should be moddable for the pill, but who knows what the performance of the card will be once that’s done. |
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November 01, 2018, 02:11:48 PM |
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What's with all the damn GPU ASIC Flooding the market!! seriously though the GTX 1060 GDDR5X looks to be the real winner of ETH-Hash coins if the pill works for it. The RX 590 doesn't impress me they didn't even boost the memory speed we know GDDR5 can handle 9GBPS, but the power savings would be nice. On the other hand if ETH implements ProgPoW then RX 580's are near worthless at it whereas Vega56's with its HBM will be far superior, even to Nvidia GPUs. Then If vega 20 comes out with the 4096-bit HBM bus + 16-32GB vRAM then that will be a real monster for mining memory intensive algos. GTX 1060 GDDR5X might be good for ETH but only with ETHlargement. Current GDDR5 might have 2250MHz even more, but it make no sesnse to push cards to these limits with stock bios. I think Sapphire clocks some of their cards to 2100MHz so they might do it with RX 590 as well. Vega is the king now. Will see performance of new Vegas with 7nm as well as RX 600 series. #NoRebrandeon |
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November 01, 2018, 02:52:58 PM |
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Price $300 buy gaming slower than 1070
what amd thinking about this product?
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November 01, 2018, 06:31:44 PM |
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This video card is a small rebranding for the 500th series and in mining there will not be much gain in comparison with the 580th series. There will be slightly reduced power consumption thanks to transition to the 12-nm process. The real step forward will be new Navi cards, which will be released in the second quarter of 2019.
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November 01, 2018, 08:46:24 PM |
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They branded as 590 bc eventually they will release a 595 and 595x2, thus reliving the glory days of 295x2.
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November 01, 2018, 09:13:36 PM |
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Price $300 buy gaming slower than 1070
what amd thinking about this product?
Well this is their only answer for the moment while they do not have their 7nm Navi GPUs in the market and Nvidia is rampaging with their RTX cards. Though it might still be a tad bit slower than the GTX 1070 if they price it right there will still be a market to it. What I am eager to see the Intel taking up space in the GPU market as we really need more competition for it not only for gaming but for mining too. Hopefully Raja does not blow it LOL.. |
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November 02, 2018, 01:56:26 AM |
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Price $300 buy gaming slower than 1070
what amd thinking about this product?
Well this is their only answer for the moment while they do not have their 7nm Navi GPUs in the market and Nvidia is rampaging with their RTX cards. Though it might still be a tad bit slower than the GTX 1070 if they price it right there will still be a market to it. What I am eager to see the Intel taking up space in the GPU market as we really need more competition for it not only for gaming but for mining too. Hopefully Raja does not blow it LOL.. i read news Intel bring ex-amd vga design to intel vga team in 2-3 year maybe intel step up to fight in vga market |
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November 02, 2018, 03:11:01 AM |
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It does not seem to exceed the watt performance of RX 470.
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Mattthev (OP)
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November 02, 2018, 01:39:32 PM |
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It does not seem to exceed the watt performance of RX 470.
Actually it should be better or everybody hope so |
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November 02, 2018, 04:11:36 PM |
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It does not seem to exceed the watt performance of RX 470.
Actually it should be better or everybody hope so if rx590 make better power efficiency it good news for miner. but in long term when miner what to change card price surely drop very much because gamer like nvidia card more than amd card. and performance of this card not impress when compare to 1060 nvidia will launch 1060 with gddr5x with same price and next year nvidia launch gtx2060 too. |
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November 02, 2018, 05:21:39 PM |
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They branded as 590 bc eventually they will release a 595 and 595x2, thus reliving the glory days of 295x2.
295x2 was just two 290's together with slightly lower clock-speeds, there never was a 295, however there was a "285" or fully unleashed Tonga core. I do believe Powercolor make the only full GPU RX 290 dual GPU. Thing was a massive beast of a card. Don't make me relieve my "glory" days of 295x2... I bought it instead of a GTX 980/970 because it was "faster" in game i saw benchmarked. The damn thing had so many issues with crossfire, dual monitors, and video games. Ended selling it for $450 bucks and getting a 980ti. I think AMD is done with dual GPU SKUs for good. |
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Mattthev (OP)
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November 02, 2018, 07:33:21 PM |
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It does not seem to exceed the watt performance of RX 470.
Actually it should be better or everybody hope so if rx590 make better power efficiency it good news for miner. but in long term when miner what to change card price surely drop very much because gamer like nvidia card more than amd card. and performance of this card not impress when compare to 1060 nvidia will launch 1060 with gddr5x with same price and next year nvidia launch gtx2060 too. It depends on algo. XMR and other CN coins definitely AMD. ETH mining with 1060 GDDR5X will be better only with ETHlargement if it will work. The other algo like Keccak will be better on Nvidia for sure, but there is almost no difference with memory so you are pretty much fine with standard 1060. RX 590 will be for sure more power efficient than RX 580, but we will see after first tests. RX 590 should cost 300 USD, but I haven't seen price for 1060 6GB GDDR5X, but it will be more than 300 USD since GDDR5 version cost that. |
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November 03, 2018, 12:58:11 PM |
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It does not seem to exceed the watt performance of RX 470.
Actually it should be better or everybody hope so if rx590 make better power efficiency it good news for miner. but in long term when miner what to change card price surely drop very much because gamer like nvidia card more than amd card. and performance of this card not impress when compare to 1060 nvidia will launch 1060 with gddr5x with same price and next year nvidia launch gtx2060 too. It depends on algo. XMR and other CN coins definitely AMD. ETH mining with 1060 GDDR5X will be better only with ETHlargement if it will work. The other algo like Keccak will be better on Nvidia for sure, but there is almost no difference with memory so you are pretty much fine with standard 1060. RX 590 will be for sure more power efficient than RX 580, but we will see after first tests. RX 590 should cost 300 USD, but I haven't seen price for 1060 6GB GDDR5X, but it will be more than 300 USD since GDDR5 version cost that. gtx 1060 Launch price is 299 for Founders Edition and other brand price around 249-299. i think nvidia will drop 1060 gddr5 to 199 same price as Launch price of 1060 3Gb and make 1060 gddr5x at price range 269-299 |
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