Realistic Melee! 3.7.0

i will try this out. i recently installed Non Lethal Strikes, which is something that was needed. but, when you strike someone with that script, there is no effect at all and i've found myself wishing recently that it would at least knock someone down so i can get away lol. from what i am reading, this is that "middle ground" that we are looking for. we appreciate it and i'll be checking this out

Hey just tried this mod and game started crashing. I narrowed it down to the weapons.meta by replacing it with a different one and it worked. I don't know if maybe you missed something or forgot something when changing the text in the weapons.meta. But love the idea of the mod and will download again once this is fixed. 

12 hours ago, rebelpolice said:

Hey just tried this mod and game started crashing. I narrowed it down to the weapons.meta by replacing it with a different one and it worked. I don't know if maybe you missed something or forgot something when changing the text in the weapons.meta. But love the idea of the mod and will download again once this is fixed. 

Hey, rebelpolice and all

After sixteen more hours of development, the new version is out! Check out Version 3.4.15 and let me know how it is.

I have fixed every known issue, including incompatibility and crashing bugs. Please read the Readme carefully and ensure you install both files correctly.

Also, be sure to give me a review if you like it, or shoot me a PM if you have a problem, question, or find any bugs/issues

I have the prob that the person cannot be killed with an shotgun and when you like to arrest the person then that is not working.

1 hour ago, Madmex said:

I have the prob that the person cannot be killed with an shotgun and when you like to arrest the person then that is not working.

You need to replace your weapons.meta with the one in the "Non Lethal Shotgun Add-On" folder if you want the shotgun to NOT kill people. If you want the shotgun to kill people, use the other weapons.meta in the first folder.  Does that help?

Also, this Mod does not interfere with arresting. Not being able to arrest is an occasional bug in LSPDFR. Try putting your gun down or walking away a few steps and then coming back.

Is it possible to disable "pistol whip" for all weapons? Also can melee be non lethal for everything not just the nightstick, punches and kicks? Not sure where to change these values.

Thanks!

I'd love to test this mod but when i see the last changelog with so many fix i think i'll wait a little bit the time to make it more stable :p

Anyway i'm eager to install it !

2 hours ago, Lyrad said:

I'd love to test this mod but when i see the last changelog with so many fix i think i'll wait a little bit the time to make it more stable :p

Anyway i'm eager to install it !

Hey, @Lyrad.

Version 3.4.15 of Realistic Melee is the final and 100% stable version. The log is huge because I was originally manipulating multitudes of other .metas to get the same affect that I do now with just weapons.meta and damages.meta edits. Re-coding those other .metas caused deep-rooted issues, such as clipping through the ground forever when you die (I mean, how often do you die on duty? Reasonably it took a while to find every issue). With these problems appearing after hundreds of hours of play, I decided to reevaluate my coding abilities and utterly revamp every bit of the Mod.

But you should definitely try it out, because it now has 100% realistic punch/kick/baton damage, no accidental pistol whipping with tasers/pistols, and even the ability to make your shotgun 100% non-lethal (I even found out how to remove blood animations). At worst you won't like it and can just revert to your back-ups! But please, try it out and if you like it, kindly rate me. For some reason no one wants to tell me how I did...

Jon

Thanks for your reply, gonna try it soon then. Sometimes people don't want to download a mod just because there is not a video showcase. I could do it if you want to.

10 hours ago, Lyrad said:

Thanks for your reply, gonna try it soon then. Sometimes people don't want to download a mod just because there is not a video showcase. I could do it if you want to.

If you can make a good looking one, I'd gladly add it and give you credits. Thank you for the assistance!

Actually this doesn't seems to work, 1 nighstick hit = 1 dead, 2 punchs = 1 dead Didn't tried the non-lethal shotgun at all.

1 hour ago, Lyrad said:

Actually this doesn't seems to work, 1 nighstick hit = 1 dead, 2 punchs = 1 dead Didn't tried the non-lethal shotgun at all.

If you slam someone directly on the top of the skull with a baton without them knowing, they would probably be knocked out in reality. If you connect a right hook and upper cut to a pedestrians face while they are walking down the street, they will probably be knocked out in reality. It isn't non-lethal melee, but realistic melee. I can punch, kick, and baton the crap outta people and they don't die every time. I'm sorry it isn't working for you. Make sure you replaced the proper .metas, too. There are multitudes of damages and weapons.metas.

I'm quoting myself from Noreticle mod :

2 minutes ago, Lyrad said:

I think i've managed to do it myself. I've take the lines from weapon pistol to digiscanner and replaced them in the weapon.meta got from realistic melee.

Here is a video of what it's giving ingame :

And the file is attached to the post if anyone want to take it. If the OP want me to remove it just ask !

Realistic melee+noreticle.rar

6 hours ago, Lyrad said:

I'm quoting myself from Noreticle mod :

 

 

I added the video and gave you credits. Thank you so much for the video and the honest review. I'll keep working on it and see what I can do about making the punch/kick/baton damage less temperamental. My plan is to have punches/kicks knockout in 4-12 hits (depending on the attack used), and batons in 2-7 hits. For now I feel it's 100% better than how it was, though! Let me know if there is anything else you would like changed and I'll gladly oblige. Cheers!

Jon

Yeah this should be less happening to kill someone with less than 3-4 punchs and less than 2 nightstick hit in the head. It should be more graduate like 2-5 punches = knock out for a few seconds, more ? Get some convulsions. More again ? Something else ? And death could happen to any of this stages (with more %chances at higher stages) to make it feel random.

I'm thinking about testing the non lethal shotgun (with it's skin) and make an exclusive video for this mod (most of the video is for the noreticle mod). Anyway i think i'm gonna wait the next update. You should really think to add a manual installation guide to your readme. At least for weapon.meta which seems to be used with a lot of mods.

1 hour ago, Lyrad said:

Yeah this should be less happening to kill someone with less than 3-4 punchs and less than 2 nightstick hit in the head. It should be more graduate like 2-5 punches = knock out for a few seconds, more ? Get some convulsions. More again ? Something else ? And death could happen to any of this stages (with more %chances at higher stages) to make it feel random.

I'm thinking about testing the non lethal shotgun (with it's skin) and make an exclusive video for this mod (most of the video is for the noreticle mod). Anyway i think i'm gonna wait the next update. You should really think to add a manual installation guide to your readme. At least for weapon.meta which seems to be used with a lot of mods.

Is there not an Installation section? I swear I have one in there, plus one to explain how you need to fully replace your weapons.meta to get the non-lethal shotgun, with instructions. It's exactly like the regular Mod, except the shotgun is updated, by the way.

As for the ped responses (getting them to pass out and wake back up without EMS, how to make them convulse/change reactions, or stopping them from falling down after ever freakin' hit..), requires editing .metas that subsequently bugged the entire game out (you would fall into the ground forever when you died, all ped melee/guns killed in one hit, peds would ignore your melee attacks completely with no damage or reaction, etc).

I was just sick of knocking folks out with my taser on accident so, I said screw it and tried everything out I could think of for two weeks. If you or anyone you know can find a way to properly edit the other ai files without messing the game up, pllleaassee send me a PM. I'll gladly collaborate!

For the installation guide i was talking about the conflict i had with noreticle mod. And i'll have to do that manipulation again at every update. A clear readme would more appreciated due to my noskill.

And as i just said i am totally unskilled in dev', at least i can understand most of what the code means but i can't even write a simple line. It's just about picking a line here and replace an other there. If you find a way to improve the mod, just go ! Otherwise the mod is already good enough to worth the installation.

It should state in the description that this makes ALL melee weapons non-lethal not just the nightstick.

1 hour ago, Officialjake said:

It should state in the description that this makes ALL melee weapons non-lethal not just the nightstick.

As you can see in the video i'm still able to kill peoples with melee hit. Did i messed up somewhere or did you ?

3 minutes ago, Lyrad said:

As you can see in the video i'm still able to kill peoples with melee hit. Did i messed up somewhere or did you ?

It's working fine for me.  I don't mind all melee weapons not being lethal as I only use the nightstick in LSPDFR.  I beat someone to death with my nightstick and a hatchet and they didn't take any damage.

Actually when i read the meta i can see this :

<Item type="CWeaponInfo">
          <Name>WEAPON_UNARMED</Name>

[...]

<HeadShotDamageModifierPlayer value="0.000000" />
          <Damage value="0.000000" />
          <DamageTime value="0.000000" />
          <DamageTimeInVehicle value="0.000000" />
          <DamageTimeInVehicleHeadShot value="0.000000" />
          <HitLimbsDamageModifier value="0.000000" />

Then i don't know why i kill people in 1-2 punches.

Edit : Anyway i see the same for the knife so i don't think this is something important.

All melee weapons are non-lethal? I'll look into that, but they still die from knives, broken bottles, etc. for me. I'll keep ya'll updated.

7 minutes ago, MrGame4ndWatch said:

Awesome, like what you did there! As long as the creator of Realistic melee is ok with it I am. I intended this mod to be more of a basis for people to do what they want with and you did just that. I won't be updating this mod any time soon, probably never as there's no need to so I don't mind if people edit my method to suit them as long as it's not a blatant copy of the original structure mod (noreticle) I provide the structure, you build off it. Anyways, glad that you found a use for it in your own gameplay and took it upon yourself to help others in the process!

My response to Lyrad on my NoReticle mod page, just wanted to stick this here for clarification. If you, Techengage, would like to update your mod with Lyrad's edit with my NoReticle as a seperate option or something, I'd be fine with it. As in the quote, I'm not going to update it anytime soon and only intend it to be a basis for others. Cheers!

i installed the mod and it seems like the melee weapons wont deal any damage and if they do its pretty unrealistic since i tried to kill a ped with a knife and he didnt die even after like 35 hits. Just wondering if im the only one or the mod is juste made like this

On 9/28/2016 at 4:01 PM, alexgrobert said:

i installed the mod and it seems like the melee weapons wont deal any damage and if they do its pretty unrealistic since i tried to kill a ped with a knife and he didnt die even after like 35 hits. Just wondering if im the only one or the mod is juste made like this

Hey there, alexgobert.

It appears weapon damage and pedestrian health is an incredibly difficult thing to re-code. I am currently working on a way to define fists, feet, and nightsticks ONLY as weaker weapons, but the game seems to synchronize weapons with a different code line, which I have yet to discover. I will keep working to find a solution, but it's hard with a business to run and a family to care for. I cannot guarantee an update anytime soon, if ever.

If anyone willing to assist me can step forward, there might be some hope for future fixes. For now, I recommend using this Mod in LSPDFR only, and reverting to your vanilla weapons.meta when playing SP.

Regards,

Jon