Capitol Fax.com - Your Illinois News Radar » UI President says “Rome is burning,” offers contract with the state
SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax      Advertise Here      About     Exclusive Subscriber Content     Updated Posts    Contact Rich Miller
CapitolFax.com
To subscribe to Capitol Fax, click here.
UI President says “Rome is burning,” offers contract with the state

Thursday, Nov 3, 2016 - Posted by Rich Miller

* News-Gazette

The [University of Illinois] has lost more than $750 million in state funding over the last two years, UI President Tim Killeen noted during his annual meeting with the faculty Monday.

“That’s three-quarters of a billion dollars. That’s a lot,” Killeen told a couple of faculty members lamenting cuts in their units. “We are under huge stress, and Rome is burning around us. These are not normal times.”

At the UI Board of Trustees’ meeting on Nov. 10, officials will roll out the proposed new contract with the state, which has been rechristened the Investment Performance and Accountability Initiative, Killeen said. Members of the UI’s bipartisan legislative caucus will be on hand.

In exchange for meeting specific benchmarks — such as limiting tuition to the rate of inflation, providing adequate financial aid or achieving certain graduation rates — the UI would receive guaranteed funding for five years, regulatory relief and procurement reform, which faculty have pushed to speed up the process of purchasing research equipment and other materials.

“Imagine what we could do if we had that kind of predictable environment,” Killeen said.

Sounds like an interesting concept. Slimming its bureaucratic bloat ought to be a part of it, however.

Any other ideas?

       

34 Comments
  1. - MSIX - Thursday, Nov 3, 16 @ 10:50 am:

    I hope they expand that to include all state schools, otherwise it will be far too easy to just ignore the smaller schools as they wither and die.

    But maybe that’s the real plan.


  2. - RNUG - Thursday, Nov 3, 16 @ 10:52 am:

    I’m going to be a cynic here. The State isn’t honoring and/or paying in a timely manner various current contracts. What makes the UoI think the State would honor this proposed contract?


  3. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Nov 3, 16 @ 10:57 am:

    ===That’s three-quarters of a billion dollars. That’s a lot,” (UI President Tim) Killeen told a couple of faculty members lamenting cuts in their units. “We are under huge stress, and Rome is burning around us. These are not normal times.”===

    Only one governor has not funded higher education since 1858. Voting for Raunerites will continue the burning of Rome.

    To the Post,

    Great start to lowering cost, and UIUC has made a conscious effort to lower, yep, lower, their benchmark admittance criteria to get more students, and more students, by volume, means more monies, and then lower the academic buerocracies and lower many of the assisting internal college(s) hierarchy(ies)

    Rauner might ask Killeen to have “Office Space” moments in each college.

    So, if all the UIUC alums are “cool” with a three-quarter a billion shortfall, a lowering of academic standards, the reduction of administration staffing, maybe even cornerstone educators leaving for Michigan, for example…

    The first worry needs to be…

    “Why is the governor trying to close state universities”

    Once Rauner puts monies in universities, then let’s talk about who is committed to what.


  4. - Last Bull Moose - Thursday, Nov 3, 16 @ 10:57 am:

    With whom are they negotiating?

    Good ideas if they were in a functioning State.


  5. - Because I Said So.... - Thursday, Nov 3, 16 @ 10:58 am:

    Supposedly UI has legislative support and a bill will be introduced. My question is, how does the state enter into an agreement on future appropriations?


  6. - Anon221 - Thursday, Nov 3, 16 @ 11:05 am:

    Consideration- Does this fall right into the divide and conquer leveraging plan of Rauner and Co.? I’d much rather see the universities and colleges stand together instead of trying to win their cases individually.


  7. - Handle Bar Mustache - Thursday, Nov 3, 16 @ 11:08 am:

    URBANA (AP) — The University of Illinois says it has cut the number of its employees by 484 over the past 18 months, about 3 percent of the school’s non-instructional workforce.

    The university said in a news release Wednesday that most of the cuts were made through attrition as people left jobs and that 202 of the positions were in the university system’s central administration.


  8. - Gruntled University Employee - Thursday, Nov 3, 16 @ 11:09 am:

    A raise in the archaic $250K project cap would be a huge help. Bump it up to say $750K, $1M maybe?


  9. - wordslinger - Thursday, Nov 3, 16 @ 11:09 am:

    What’s the Rauner record on honoring contracts?

    On to Plan B…..


  10. - Handle Bar Mustache - Thursday, Nov 3, 16 @ 11:10 am:

    More on bloat:

    Thu, 10/06/2016

    URBANA — The employee count at the University of Illinois has dropped by more than 500 in the last 18 months, a response to the state’s fiscal problems, officials said Wednesday.

    President Tim Killeen released what he called an “interim report” on budget-cutting efforts, showing that 484 non-instructional staff positions have been cut since February 2015, a 3 percent drop.

    …202 positions, or 41 percent, were in university administration at the system level. That represents a 17 percent cut, from 1,211 university administration employees in February 2015 to 1,009 last month…


  11. - Handle Bar Mustache - Thursday, Nov 3, 16 @ 11:13 am:

    I’ve said it before here - on Rauner’s watc, public universities have been gutted by more than a billion dollars in two short years.

    Excluding MAP grants for the poor.


  12. - Earnest - Thursday, Nov 3, 16 @ 11:14 am:

    >“Imagine what we could do if we had that kind of predictable environment,” Killeen said.

    Imagine what the entire state could do with a predictable, balanced budget.

    >In exchange for meeting specific benchmarks

    Illinois, the state of no funding without lots of preconditions, even if that funding was actually included in a budget.


  13. - Blue dog dem - Thursday, Nov 3, 16 @ 11:14 am:

    Higher ed suffers ( and well it should), because Illinois politicians felt it more important to try and buy votes with unrealistic contract guarantees. The ISC has also said it more important to honor these contracts than worry about higher ed. Its the old ’cause and effect’ thing. Even the people in Carbondale dont care about SIUC (i.e. the Southerns endorsement of TBryant). Old Blue no longer cares about higher ed.


  14. - dr. reason a, goodwin - Thursday, Nov 3, 16 @ 11:24 am:

    Blue Dog, I hardly think the Southern’s endorsement is indicative of what Carbondale or the region thinks. The paper’s editorial page is a mess.


  15. - Anonymous - Thursday, Nov 3, 16 @ 11:27 am:

    So, how did the U of I managed to survive.

    Where did they hide the money that allowed that?


  16. - Liberty - Thursday, Nov 3, 16 @ 11:55 am:

    How about getting rid of all the bureaucratic mandates from the legislature?


  17. - A guy - Thursday, Nov 3, 16 @ 11:57 am:

    ==Slimming its bureaucratic bloat ought to be a part of it, however.==

    Amen. Ought to be Part One in fact. Rome is burning around us? Jeesh.


  18. - Keyser Soze - Thursday, Nov 3, 16 @ 12:05 pm:

    As a public institution, the U of I used to be affordable. What happened?


  19. - wordslinger - Thursday, Nov 3, 16 @ 12:09 pm:

    484 layoffs in the last 18 months, including 202 at the administration level — 17% — doesn’t qualify as “slimming?”

    What does?

    Shouldn’t there be some kind of plan from the administration, or is it just the wrecking ball, willy-nilly?

    I doubt that $750 million cut was good for the regional economy.


  20. - Seriously? - Thursday, Nov 3, 16 @ 12:13 pm:

    We’ve been through this before. What are your examples of bloat and suggested cuts? Show your work.


  21. - Annonin' - Thursday, Nov 3, 16 @ 12:22 pm:

    Good to Chief Illini playin’ the rest of the team— not
    How about the we amend the contract to mandate disposal of the ugly gray uniforms for starters?
    And skip the new procurement loopholes unless you want birth the next scandals


  22. - Mike - Thursday, Nov 3, 16 @ 12:28 pm:

    Do kids from Illinois still attend U of I? It seemed like all foreign students at this point lat time I was there.


  23. - Scamp640 - Thursday, Nov 3, 16 @ 12:35 pm:

    @ Seriously. Exactly! The bloat argument is a red herring. If you want a world class university system, you have to pay for it. If you want good computers, you need tech support. If you want external funding managed correctly, you need accountants. If you want students with learning disabilities to get a college education, you need support staff. Funding to Illinois higher education peaked over a decade ago. Please stop with the arguments that public higher education is on some sort of spending spree.

    Here is some data:

    “More recently, when appropriations for the State Universities Retirement System are excluded, total state funding for higher education institutional operations and grants in fiscal year 2014 is $ 397.2 million (16.6 percent) less than in fiscal year 2009 after accounting for inflation.”

    Source: https://www.isac.org/dotAsset/dd089996-717b-4a99-9169-b08a3271f9f5.pdf (which is state agency source)


  24. - Anon - Thursday, Nov 3, 16 @ 12:40 pm:

    If the UI were to promise to cap wage increases to their union workforce it might actually be meaningful.


  25. - Excessively Rabid - Thursday, Nov 3, 16 @ 12:45 pm:

    Regulatory relief = slimming bureaucratic bloat? Universities have a lot of administrators who are there to manage compliance with things considered desirable by somebody but not directly related to education.


  26. - blue dog dem - Thursday, Nov 3, 16 @ 1:13 pm:

    dr @ 11:48. You would think that most of the greater Carbondale metro would think of SIUC as the Holy Grail. Although I have only been back for a couple months, I sense that locals not on the g-train, have seen enough.


  27. - facts are stubborn things - Thursday, Nov 3, 16 @ 1:27 pm:

    If you want something to hold up in this state, you need to put into the IL constitution and even then be ready to go to court.


  28. - Federalist - Thursday, Nov 3, 16 @ 3:16 pm:

    - RNUG - Thursday, Nov 3, 16 @ 10:52 am:

    I’m going to be a cynic here. The State isn’t honoring and/or paying in a timely manner various current contracts. What makes the UoI think the State would honor this proposed contract?

    Damn, you beat me to it again!


  29. - Dr X - Thursday, Nov 3, 16 @ 4:27 pm:

    1. Rauner does not care if the UI goes belly up - conservatives believe higher ed is a waste of money and just liberal indoc.

    2. What a great way to achieve dubious measures- graduation rate up? Fantastic - you’ll see inflated rates and then politicians will run around equating less money with succcess, when there was no success, just blackmail and students passed through.


  30. - Former Hoosier - Thursday, Nov 3, 16 @ 4:34 pm:

    My daughter is a high school senior. She has already been accepted into the honors college at Indiana University and received a scholarship. Indiana makes this type of up front offer to many of Illinois top high school students. With the scholarship, it’s the same cost as sending my daughter to U of I. She is not even applying to U of I and neither are most of her classmates. Why? As Killeen said in his talk, a much larger than normal number of faculty left U of I last year and they are bracing for more departures this year. Loss of faculty is destabilizing and no parent wants their child to attend a weakened school.


  31. - CCP Hostage - Thursday, Nov 3, 16 @ 4:41 pm:

    I wish them luck. I’m an alumna. But without a budget, I think they’re hostages still along with the rest of us. They’re negotiating against themselves.


  32. - striketoo - Thursday, Nov 3, 16 @ 10:50 pm:

    “I doubt that $750 million cut was good for the regional economy.”
    And, of course, the reason we pay taxes is to support “the regional economy”.


  33. - Chad - Friday, Nov 4, 16 @ 9:03 am:

    This is just not serious. No real economization to attract GOP and fiscal-oriented members, and no means to enforce the deal. Has a holier-than-thou cast to it as well: “we are so good and important that we should be held harmless from the rest of you rabble”.


  34. - Chad - Friday, Nov 4, 16 @ 9:12 am:

    What really needs to be done is to right-size the state higher ed system and integrate the community college system with the remaining state universities. Leave u of I as-is, and collapse the rest into two larger entities (one north and one south). Probably leave ISU alone. The current system reflects the post-WWII state of play. We have a bunch of state universities that tried to become mini-Urbanas.


Sorry, comments for this post are now closed.


* Reader comments closed for the weekend
* Isabel’s afternoon briefing
* Things that make you go 'Hmm'
* Did Dan Proft’s independent expenditure PAC illegally coordinate with Bailey's campaign? The case will go before the Illinois Elections Board next week
* PJM's massive fail
* $117.7B In Economic Activity: Illinois Hospitals Are Essential To Communities And Families
* It’s just a bill
* Showcasing The Retailers Who Make Illinois Work
* Open thread
* Isabel’s morning briefing
* SUBSCRIBERS ONLY - Supplement to today's edition
* SUBSCRIBERS ONLY - Today's edition of Capitol Fax (use all CAPS in password)
* Live coverage
* Pritzker calls some of Bears proposals 'probably non-starters,' refuses to divert state dollars intended for other purposes (Updated)
* Yesterday's stories

Support CapitolFax.com
Visit our advertisers...

...............

...............

...............

...............

...............


Loading


Main Menu
Home
Illinois
YouTube
Pundit rankings
Obama
Subscriber Content
Durbin
Burris
Blagojevich Trial
Advertising
Updated Posts
Polls

Archives
April 2024
March 2024
February 2024
January 2024
December 2023
November 2023
October 2023
September 2023
August 2023
July 2023
June 2023
May 2023
April 2023
March 2023
February 2023
January 2023
December 2022
November 2022
October 2022
September 2022
August 2022
July 2022
June 2022
May 2022
April 2022
March 2022
February 2022
January 2022
December 2021
November 2021
October 2021
September 2021
August 2021
July 2021
June 2021
May 2021
April 2021
March 2021
February 2021
January 2021
December 2020
November 2020
October 2020
September 2020
August 2020
July 2020
June 2020
May 2020
April 2020
March 2020
February 2020
January 2020
December 2019
November 2019
October 2019
September 2019
August 2019
July 2019
June 2019
May 2019
April 2019
March 2019
February 2019
January 2019
December 2018
November 2018
October 2018
September 2018
August 2018
July 2018
June 2018
May 2018
April 2018
March 2018
February 2018
January 2018
December 2017
November 2017
October 2017
September 2017
August 2017
July 2017
June 2017
May 2017
April 2017
March 2017
February 2017
January 2017
December 2016
November 2016
October 2016
September 2016
August 2016
July 2016
June 2016
May 2016
April 2016
March 2016
February 2016
January 2016
December 2015
November 2015
October 2015
September 2015
August 2015
July 2015
June 2015
May 2015
April 2015
March 2015
February 2015
January 2015
December 2014
November 2014
October 2014
September 2014
August 2014
July 2014
June 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
February 2014
January 2014
December 2013
November 2013
October 2013
September 2013
August 2013
July 2013
June 2013
May 2013
April 2013
March 2013
February 2013
January 2013
December 2012
November 2012
October 2012
September 2012
August 2012
July 2012
June 2012
May 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
June 2011
May 2011
April 2011
March 2011
February 2011
January 2011
December 2010
November 2010
October 2010
September 2010
August 2010
July 2010
June 2010
May 2010
April 2010
March 2010
February 2010
January 2010
December 2009
November 2009
October 2009
September 2009
August 2009
July 2009
June 2009
May 2009
April 2009
March 2009
February 2009
January 2009
December 2008
November 2008
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
January 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
February 2007
January 2007
December 2006
November 2006
October 2006
September 2006
August 2006
July 2006
June 2006
May 2006
April 2006
March 2006
February 2006
January 2006
December 2005
April 2005
March 2005
February 2005
January 2005
December 2004
November 2004
October 2004

Blog*Spot Archives
November 2005
October 2005
September 2005
August 2005
July 2005
June 2005
May 2005

Syndication

RSS Feed 2.0
Comments RSS 2.0




Hosted by MCS SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax Advertise Here Mobile Version Contact Rich Miller