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Just wanted to say that I’m very happy about the new ancient armaments coming with 7.4.1. Not only is it a great idea to spice up the daily login rewards which have become quite stale over the years, but adding them as random world drops is the big news for me. The traditional core of any RPG has always been loot, the excitement of killing mobs and maybe finding something better or prettier than you already have. SWTOR has been lacking sorely in this department so I really appreciate the effort to make looting in this game a little more enjoyable! I hope to see more of this going forward. Drops specific to certain planets or certain mobs would greatly enhance the game and make leveling more fun. The mechanics are there after all (Jawa cloak or the CZ-198 vehicle)!

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Will these contain armor sets from the older versions of the game that don't drop anymore?

Flashpoints for example used to drop unique gear that could only be obtained in said flashpoint. Like The Foundry would drop Foundry armor.

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I know we'll find out on Tuesday but I wish they could have given a little more information on these:

Added to daily login rewards - Pieces?  Sets?  How often?  Random or everyone gets the same one on the same days?  Will these be in collections?

 

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I personally don’t think they will be in collections, but legacy bound. Simply based on how they handled the set bonus armor sets. 

4 hours ago, Traceguy said:

Will these contain armor sets from the older versions of the game that don't drop anymore?

Yes, that’s what the post said. That also means that those sets are very likely low res and low poly. I am still waiting for the long overdue texture overhaul. But beggars can’t be choosers, I still appreciate them adding those previously unavailable sets back.

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Hello folks!

Just wanted to pop in real quick and give you some more info about these since we haven’t released all of the details.

What are these exactly?

So these Armors and Weapons are new versions of existing ones that had randomized stats and that there was no other way to acquire their appearance in the game aside from existing world drops. These were no longer available to trade on the Galactic Trade Network due to the backend changes, but there are others that may not have been tradeable at all. There are a lot of them! Hundreds of weapons and over 2000 armor pieces. The sheer amount is why we didn’t post a detailed list.

Ancient Armaments Login Reward Calendar

This reward calendar will operate very similar to our 3 existing reward calendars, complete with Achievements and various items available on the track. This has been added to the rotation of login calendars so it might not show up right away. The big change to this one is it will include a chance to get some of these new versions of previous appearances. There will be a Weapons Pack and an Armors Pack on the calendar, the weapon pack will give you a Fitted Weapon from the list of new Weapons. The Armor Pack will give you one complete set of one of these armor sets. The packs will be legacy bound but the contents will be Bind on Equip!

World Drops

Many of these have been difficult to acquire due to requiring specific levels or planets or various other rules. These new ones can drop in any world drop. World drops will be single pieces of armor or a weapon. You can still get the normal randomized stat world drops, these drop in addition to them! However, because we’re adding all of these new items to the normal drop pool, they have no vendor value, so if you want credits for them you’ll need to do some trading. If you don’t want to bother with all of that, you can always destroy them (though they will not disassemble).

Rarity

In both cases of the packs as well as the world drops higher quality items will be rarer. Premium is the most common, followed by Prototype, and then Artifact. Because they can drop at any level they should appear a bit more frequently than many of our other armor world drops.

Collections

These items will not be in collections. They will however be Bind on Equip! This means they can be traded or sold on the GTN. A big part of why I wanted to get these into the game was to make up for the random stat appearance items no longer being tradeable on the GTN due to our backend changes.

I hope that answers many of your questions but if you have anything that I wasn’t able to answer with regards to these new items feel free to ask!

May the Force Serve You

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3 minutes ago, JoeStramaglia said:

They will however be Bind on Equip!

Can someone from the team please reconsider making them Bind to Legacy? Especially if there are over 2000 pieces of armour, being able to use them only in one character is not only limiting, but creates the problem of binding them by mistake to the wrong character. 

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6 minutes ago, Quendorite said:

Can someone from the team please reconsider making them Bind to Legacy? Especially if there are over 2000 pieces of armour, being able to use them only in one character is not only limiting, but creates the problem of binding them by mistake to the wrong character. 

I'm dying with maxed out 7 tabs of legacy storage. I couldn't handle it. (Please give us more tabs BSword.)

I don't know if it was their intention, but adding 2,000 pieces of cosmetic gear to the loot tables that's not legacy-bound is really going to increase interest in grinding loot.

 

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Yeah, I'm under the assumption now that the GTN is going to be absolutely loaded (hopefully) with this stuff; it'd be impossible to really get what you want relying on random drops only, just sucks that this is a calendar because you'll only be able to complete it 3x a year max.  Would be nice if you could reroll a calendar if you've already done it 10+ times.

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13 minutes ago, JoeStramaglia said:

Hello folks!

Just wanted to pop in real quick and give you some more info about these since we haven’t released all of the details.

I hope that answers many of your questions but if you have anything that I wasn’t able to answer with regards to these new items feel free to ask!

hi  @JoeStramaglia,  THANKS so much for the info and obviously it's always nice to see actual DEV ( coder ) posting here on these official forums;  especially nowadays with SWTOR's current  perplexing  EAxistence.

Anyways, please could you ( or someone at BioSword )  offer us   GSF pilots  some semblance of  *hope*  that u guys might actually spend one dev cycle on GSF expansion?  ( it hasn't been paid any significant attention since around 2018  :(  , which means one half of  'STAR Wars'  is totally ignored in a game about  Star Wars.  )

14 minutes ago, JoeStramaglia said:

May the Force Serve You

hmm, i've never heard anyone say that ^ with the word  "Serve"  instead of the traditional  "BE with"  version.   Any particular reason for the change?  :confused:

:ph_use_the_force:

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1 minute ago, Nee-Elder said:

hmm, i've never heard anyone say that ^ with the word  "Serve"  instead of the traditional  "BE with"  version.   Any particular reason for the change?  :confused:

He's quoting Lana Beniko

Force Be with you - The Jedi way

Force Serve you - The sith way

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Just now, Traceguy said:

He's quoting Lana Beniko

./facepalm  , i can't believe  i didn't recall  her phrase'ing

ugh,  i really have been here in SWTOR  realm far too long if i didn't even remember that.

i deserve to be  temp-banned into  Suggestion Box section for 24 hours.

So sorry  @JoeStramaglia and i shall make this up to  Lana on the pending  *Date Night* !!

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11 minutes ago, Nee-Elder said:

hmm, i've never heard anyone say that ^ with the word  "Serve"  instead of the traditional  "BE with"  version.   Any particular reason for the change? 

Lana says "may the force ever serve you."

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if they are constantly available for a decent price on the GTN there shouldn't be an issue. I hope they added some of the rarer old sets no one can get and not just the common ones with random stats that still drop.

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42 minutes ago, JoeStramaglia said:

Hello folks!

Just wanted to pop in real quick and give you some more info about these since we haven’t released all of the details.

What are these exactly?

So these Armors and Weapons are new versions of existing ones that had randomized stats and that there was no other way to acquire their appearance in the game aside from existing world drops. These were no longer available to trade on the Galactic Trade Network due to the backend changes, but there are others that may not have been tradeable at all. There are a lot of them! Hundreds of weapons and over 2000 armor pieces. The sheer amount is why we didn’t post a detailed list.

Collections

These items will not be in collections. They will however be Bind on Equip! This means they can be traded or sold on the GTN. A big part of why I wanted to get these into the game was to make up for the random stat appearance items no longer being tradeable on the GTN due to our backend changes.

I have to add to the chorus of Thank yous, Joe! But I do have a few questions:

1. I know you mentioned that a detailed list would be difficult to share due to how many items are in the new Ancient Armaments login calendar, but even just the names of the weapons and full armor sets would be helpful for those of us who might be making a spreadsheet to track which pieces they do or do not have. 

2. I have to agree with others about putting them in either Collections or making them BtL. Or even BInd to Legacy on Equip. I've got plenty of credits, but with how much players will want these, I expect they'll go for insane prices on the GTN.

3. Any chance we might see BtL/BtE versions of the old 1-50 FP Armors in the the Ancient Armaments? Or BtL/BtE versions of the Ilum and Makeb armor sets. along with the Rishi Pirate outfits?

And finally: Any chance there is a lookalike of the Imperial/Republic "Cutscene Blasters" in the Ancient Armaments? 

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If these items are not going to be available through collections, any time we want to keep a set they are going to have to sit in a cargo bay....forever.  The bays are well congested as things stand.  I would like to see addition bays made available or an addional collections style feature which would allow you call up unlocked armour pieces rather than having to hold them in a bay.

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Thank you @JoeStramagliafor the clarification! 

2 hours ago, JoeStramaglia said:

Hundreds of weapons and over 2000 armor pieces.

Now I'm interested if these are actually 2000 different pieces, or identical pieces with different names. Judging by the sheer size I'd say the latter, but at the same time it wouldn't make sense to have duplicates for purely cosmetic armor and weapons 🤔

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